More Big Ten Expansion as Soon as February? Find Out How!
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2024
- Just as the Big 10 expands to 18 teams, more schools could be coming with additional conference expansion as early February 2025. That's in 11 months! How could this happen? There is something that could expedite the implosion of the ACC and those teams will be frantically looking to jump to the Big 10 or the SEC. Tune in to Locked on Big 10 with Craig Shemon to find out what that event could be with the Big Ten expansion! Here's a hint; it has to do with ESPN.
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I don't care what anyone says. Stanford and Cal should be on the list for B1G expansion. Both Cal and Stanford would placate the academic desires, reduce travel for the west coast schools, and make ND/Stanford a conference game should ND decide to ultimately join.
I am also projecting FSU, Miami(FL), and Georgia Tech in addition to ND.
Stanford yes they're the perfect partner for ND. Cal no. Stanford brings championship level athletics in about every sport. Cal can join the Ivy league.
FSU is most likely SEC bound. Georgia Tech may go B1G but they are probably on a Big12 radar because there will be more priorities for the B1G. Miami is big12 with a slight chance of going SEC.
@@Rodkicks88 You think the B10 isn't interested in any of the ACC florida teams?
@@Mike-sp7zv they are interested in FSU. But the SEC has first dibs on them. The SEC will eventually have to expand as well and they are prioritizing a geographical footprint with FSU (and possibly Clemson) at the forefront of their expansion. Barring UF doesn’t whine, there’s a mutual interest between them. From what I’m hearing, I don’t believe Miami is on the B1G’s radar ahead of UNC/NC State, Virginia and even Georgia Tech has been gaining more traction. So there is a chance No Florida schools in the B1G but definitely will snatch up the top 3 ACC schools not going to the SEC.
@@Rodkicks88 why would the sec have "1st dibs?" To say the B10 wants GT over Miami is wild
Miami may be a bigger market than Tallahassee, but FSU isn't just broadcast in Tallahassee, they draw HUGE numbers in Jacksonville, Orlando, Tampa/St. Pete, and yes, even Miami. FSU has better television numbers than Miami and draws more FSU fans in their own stadium than they do their own.
BIG10 & PAC12 should have just merged & created a BIG10 East & BIG10 WEST division while adding a few other schools well. The travel is going to be ridiculous for these "student athletes" (YEA RIGHT!) but money is the only concern these days. I remember when the NCAA basketball tourney made a conscious effort to group teams as locally as possible to reduce travel budget for schools in the tourney. I can't imagine what it will be now with nationwide conferences! Football isn't so bad with one game per week, but the other sports are going to feel the brunt of constant travel across the country. Hope the "student athletes/school employee's" can keep up with their classroom participation!!!
Thankfully they have the internet for their class work. WSU during the pandemic went online for at least one full semester if not the year.
This isn't some kind of fun little game, this is about big brands and TV money moving forward. They don't give a rats ass about travel. They care about having a seat at the table when the big ten and sec break off from the rest of CFB. Hawaii seems to travel just fine anyway, people feign outrage over 18-22 year olds taking a few extra flights. Boo hoo.
The SWC, and the SEC should merge! Oh wait they are, just need Baylor,Ok St, TX Tech, and TCU.
So the big ten schools should take huge pay cuts to support pac 12 buster schools so these kids don't have to fly on a plane and extra hour ?
FS, NC, Duke, Clem, Miami, and ND to the B1G(24)
Perhaps!
If you look at tv ratings for the last 10 years, UNC and Duke do nothing for tv ratings. Great schools, but their football tv audience ranks around the same with Stanford and Cal. Miami isn’t much better, but they still bring in better ratings. ND, FS, and Clemson bring in a large tv audience, they make sense to add to the B1G.
was including NC & Duke because of basketball.@@jimedick9496
How are they going to pay all those schools? Some like FSU and NC will be wanting full shares and that's not going to happen imo. I can't imagine the Oregon school President would be very happy about that. That's why I don't see anything higher than half shares till 2030, These are academic types and the school Presidents understand they don't want to create discourse between it's new partners. Plus it would be an automatic four no votes from the west coast schools.
I will be surprised if ESPN extends that ACC Media Contract by next February. That is a deadline that Commissioner Philips extended from 2022 as I recently heard. It is somewhat tentative because Phillips extended that deadline without a vote of ACC membership. ESPN could extend that ACC Contract at any time. ESPN is silent and has not done that. I guess Phillips could extend that deadline again clear up to 2027. Who knows how that will play out? The FSU court case may be the most likely avenue for an earlier ACC break-up. I think Clemson would follow FSU but the ACC is Tobacco Road & UNC is Tobacco Road. I think ESPN may verbally & legally have to pull the plug on that ACC Media Contact to shake UNC & UVa out of the ACC. That will surely happen in 2027 if not earlier.
Maybe!
I really think the Acc and the big12 should just implode and everybody join the big10 and sec. Ultimately creating the 2 super conferences. Now, the thing i would do is, keep everybody in divisions relative to geography. (Essentially creating divisions that look like the exsisting conferences). Everybodys 3 "non conference games becomes 3 games against foes in other divisions of the same conference. (Example would be 2000s big10 as a division, playing a conference foe in (2010s Pac12) division. Then the championship would be more of the NFL style Nfc vs Afc. Hope this makes sense as im typing... lol #GoBlue #InMooreWeTrust
I think that’s pretty close to where we will end up.
Then they will play each other twice in twenty plus years. Complete failure.
@ Scott not a failure at all. This is all about money. Why not think big and eventual picture? Travel and expense of other sports will eventually balance this back out. Or wipe out the other sports. We will see which happens, but im leaning toward the super conferences and NFL-izing the collegiate level.
The big ten and sec don't want all those schools lol
In the end, I think we'll see one Alpha League [B1G+SEC] one Bravo League [ACC\B12]
and a Charlie League [rest of FBS teams] and each will be completely separate with
separate schedules {no Alpha team would play any Beta team} separate media deals,
separate Bowl\Playoff forumlas .. rather like AAA level baseball, AA level, A level.
I agree with you. Also maybe allow for a relegation system. Expand both Big Ten and SEC both from sea to shinning sea.
I'm thinkin that each of the AAA, AA and A Leagues will be sea to shining sea
Some good comments here. Thanks for watching.
@scottscottsdale7868 @grandpajim1595 I agree. I think if the B1G and SEC work up to 24 brands each, the best-of-the-rest can gather in a Big44 as third conference and form an excellent Promotion/relegation league. Determining who makes the cut to get in to the Power 2 conferences is going to be a Hunger Games bloodbath of epic proportions. :) There will a lot of disappointment and anger from those not chosen.
Although not real popular today the promo/releg system would serve to placate those who want a more “pure” B1G & SEC by allowing the weaker teams in each of those leagues to be replaced over time with stronger teams from the Big44.
The Big44 would consist of the left-overs from the ACC & Big12, the ACC, and MWC.
Majors (B10-SEC)
Mid Major (ACC-B12)
Mid Minors (The rest of the FBS)
Nice video and lots of good for thought. I only see ESPN blowing up their ACC football deal if they can lower the cost to them. Also big ten should add NC and FSU and Miami and ND and Stanford and Cal. There could be two great divisions created for competitive balance in football. The SEC would take Syracuse and Virginia and Clemson and maybe ND and Washington State and Oregon State. Both conferences could then just control CF. Or somehow create an über division for the best sec and Big Ten football schools but allow for a relegation system. That would be epic.
Thanks for watching. You have a lot of good interesting thoughts.
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Everyone is looking at this from an old media lens. Through eyes of last two expansions or as a fan. All that matters moving forward are school/team brands and associated viewership, and to lesser degree recruitment territory for both sports and regular school attendance (population shifts and impending college attendance cliff has big effect on regular school tuition). We are moving to a world where media is not sold by market but by audience. Rutgers would not make it in if they were under consideration for the future. So FSU is in and Miami is second tier invite only perhaps with FSU. Duke or Virginia may join but only with UNC. Stanford gets in only if ND agreed to join and brings them. Limited value left on the table.
Thank you for these thoughts!
You realize the B1G won't be paying anymore than half shares to new schools until the next media deal in 2030, except ND they are in the escalation clause on the media deal. Everyone will be offered what they gave Wa/Or, they won't go over that.
@@troywest7045 maybe.
Need into Texas & Florida
That's one reason, I still think that Texas A&M could be somewhere hidden in deep deep backroom discussions. The Aggies left the Big12 to get away from UT and now that UT is in the SEC I could see where the Aggies want out and away from them again. That would give the Big10 a massive flag post in Texas and the states #2 school.
A massive dream scenario, the Big10 goes to 22 and these are the 4 schools. (Florida State, North Carolina, Notre Dame and Texas A&M) if the move is to 24, then I believe the other two could be either (Virginia or Duke) and then either (Miami or Georgia Tech).
A and m in the big would be nice.
Once the ACC implodes, could you see the Big 10 adding any Big 12 teams? If so, who.
If you really want to get creative an outside the box and keep up with the SEC, you have to play heavy in Florida, and in Texas when it comes to football and if the new realignment is true, the SEC is going to have another leg up in Florida why not add two bigger markets in the SEC would have by adding Miami and UCF? Miami is the number one area for recruiting. The Orlando area is in the top 1015 and UCF is the biggest school in the country growing in that region is the fastest growing region in the country. It’s academics improve yearly there’s a commitment there to sports. Boy b10 would have it then
Tip 10-15 I meant
Like it!
Big Ten goes for North Carolina and Virginia. I believe both are AAU schools. FSU is not an AAU and was again rejected recently. Despite their AAU status, Cal and Stanford add nothing athletically/television value or they would have been poached along with the other 4 former Pac 12 schools.
Oh, please. No!
Need at least 2 Texas schools
That’d be good.
No one in Texas cares about playing Ohio or Michigan teams. Nebraska would be the closest draw.
Miami has bigger donors than florida state
😂
And that's why Miami will be in the BIG12
Then build a stadium
FSU is #7 in viewership, Miami is #32.
Donors don't equal viewership ratings. Miami doesn't draw near the revenue from television viewership compared to FSU. Same goes for Clemson.
I'm glad the SEC is not expanding.....the BIG10 can have all of that drama and dilute down their revenue share each year.
I think both conferences expand.
@@LockedOnBIG10Is FSU going to want a full share? How do you explain that to Wa/Or? That's a very quick way to create animosity among the newest partners. The way I look at is the School Presidents are academic types, who would probably not want to have to deal with any conference drama, especially for a school who isn't an AAU school.
Karen State University (FSU) loves to talk about viewership but they don’t talk about it during the time when Clemson was on their Championship years … When the Karen’s start losing again… starting this year… their viewership will plummet again while the Miami TV market continues to grow
Words fail me as to how ridiculous your statement truly is.
I predict B1G goes bust… SEC possibly follows…. Don’t really think you can bully the rest of CFB? Watch that viewership plummet soon….ESPN and the big two are ruining college football.
Why would views plummet? If views did plummet which conferences do you think will be hurt the most?
This is capitalism, America at it finest
@@Almighty5-ww1kl
I’ll take capitalism over communism/Socialism any day of the week. I like the fact that if I work hard, educate myself, I can become successful and be rewarded for the hard work and sacrifice.
It’s like going to school, and everyone gets a C. No failures even if you didn’t even attend class. No A’s for studying and actually attending class. Everyone gets a C no matter their test scores!!! Great concept. Punish the hard working, and reward the do nothing!!!
@@jimedick9496 if we’re going to take capitalism over everything else then people need to stop complaining saying NIL killed football , the old model of college football was more like communism, the higher up took all the resources and only left scrapes for the worker , if the market say player x y z can make money then it’s the American way to make sure everyone gets there fair market share unless you want to go to socialism or communism when it comes to football, that wouldn’t be you sir cause if it is your a hypocrite, nobody says a word when those big corporations are being very capitalistic , dnt act like big time sports can’t do the same
@@Almighty5-ww1kl
I have no issues with NIL. If these higher learning institutions can make millions off players names, then so should the players. If I was to have any gripe towards the NIL, it would be this. The NIL should only be paid to the player after they played and showed worth.
I don’t have an issue with the portal either. If a head coach can leave for greener pastures, so should the players.
Again, this is about EARNING. You work hard, you invest your time and effort, and if you bring the value, you should be paid accordingly.